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	<title>Comments on: Sheriff Bob Skipper Fails Certification Tests</title>
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		<title>By: Sheriff Skipper Announces Retirement &#124; Willamette Week &#124; Tuesday, September 8th, 2009</title>
		<link>http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2009/06/30/sheriff-bob-skipper-fails-certification-test/comment-page-1/#comment-97836</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheriff Skipper Announces Retirement &#124; Willamette Week &#124; Tuesday, September 8th, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] problems attaining his police certification have been well documented — so much so that the race to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: InvictaPDX</title>
		<link>http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2009/06/30/sheriff-bob-skipper-fails-certification-test/comment-page-1/#comment-95635</link>
		<dc:creator>InvictaPDX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, yeah- Good job WW for recommending he be voted back in to office. Maybe you should stick to fashion and music columns? Obviously politics isn&#039;t your strong suit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yeah- Good job WW for recommending he be voted back in to office. Maybe you should stick to fashion and music columns? Obviously politics isn&#8217;t your strong suit.</p>
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		<title>By: InvictaPDX</title>
		<link>http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2009/06/30/sheriff-bob-skipper-fails-certification-test/comment-page-1/#comment-95633</link>
		<dc:creator>InvictaPDX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess what folks??? He FAILED- again. Now, since he&#039;s failed TWICE, what exactly are the citizens of Portland to do? Allow him to &quot;play&quot; Sheriff, or find a candidate that is qualified for the position? I moved away from California to get away from the idiocy that ran that state; looks like it&#039;s a disease that&#039;s spreading Northward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess what folks??? He FAILED- again. Now, since he&#8217;s failed TWICE, what exactly are the citizens of Portland to do? Allow him to &#8220;play&#8221; Sheriff, or find a candidate that is qualified for the position? I moved away from California to get away from the idiocy that ran that state; looks like it&#8217;s a disease that&#8217;s spreading Northward.</p>
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		<title>By: d.luv</title>
		<link>http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2009/06/30/sheriff-bob-skipper-fails-certification-test/comment-page-1/#comment-94235</link>
		<dc:creator>d.luv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humm a sheriff with altsheimers, that&#039;s a novel concept. 

The MCSO corrections division is a talented group. Why not select a sheriff from amongst their group of high ranking military reserve officers, Ph.D&#039;s, business professionals, command staff members and sergeants.  What is so alluring about  a sheriff with memory loss, and a skill set from the 1960&#039;s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humm a sheriff with altsheimers, that&#8217;s a novel concept. </p>
<p>The MCSO corrections division is a talented group. Why not select a sheriff from amongst their group of high ranking military reserve officers, Ph.D&#8217;s, business professionals, command staff members and sergeants.  What is so alluring about  a sheriff with memory loss, and a skill set from the 1960&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Peek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Peek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don Naptolong says: 
July 3, 2009 at 10:59 am
Jack:

I usually agree with you but I have to take issue with the Joe Arapaio comment. He represents the mind set of the Arizona retirement community and as such isn’t all that relevant to Oregon and especially Multnomah County.He’s a good guy, doing a good job..but that whole deal down there is different. Their attitude is sort of Let Joe be Joe. Skipper is really an egotistical sob.

                       Don Naptolong said the above.

  Don: Fantastic post, The problem here..is that PDX is weird, and we both know it.

      Look at the streets on a warm day...HELL, a cold one.

   From what we hear....The Sheriff down there may find the ability to open the jail here, or tell why the council members spent money somewhere else, instead of the jail.


   Could tell you more stories just about the guy there...would just pi-- some off more.

  We aree in trouble here...we need a recall to sebd a message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don Naptolong says:<br />
July 3, 2009 at 10:59 am<br />
Jack:</p>
<p>I usually agree with you but I have to take issue with the Joe Arapaio comment. He represents the mind set of the Arizona retirement community and as such isn’t all that relevant to Oregon and especially Multnomah County.He’s a good guy, doing a good job..but that whole deal down there is different. Their attitude is sort of Let Joe be Joe. Skipper is really an egotistical sob.</p>
<p>                       Don Naptolong said the above.</p>
<p>  Don: Fantastic post, The problem here..is that PDX is weird, and we both know it.</p>
<p>      Look at the streets on a warm day&#8230;HELL, a cold one.</p>
<p>   From what we hear&#8230;.The Sheriff down there may find the ability to open the jail here, or tell why the council members spent money somewhere else, instead of the jail.</p>
<p>   Could tell you more stories just about the guy there&#8230;would just pi&#8211; some off more.</p>
<p>  We aree in trouble here&#8230;we need a recall to sebd a message.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Naptolong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2009/06/30/sheriff-bob-skipper-fails-certification-test/comment-page-1/#comment-94176</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Naptolong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack:

I usually agree with you but I have to take issue with the Joe Arapaio comment. He represents the mind set of the Arizona retirement community and as such isn&#039;t all that relevant to Oregon and especially Multnomah County.He&#039;s a good guy, doing a good job..but that whole deal down there is different. Their attitude is sort of Let Joe be Joe. Skipper is really an egotistical sob. He thinks or feels that his 34 years on the road in some way shape or form qualifies him to be the CEO, again. This is more like keystone cops every day. We have a Sheriff without a license, a new jail mothballed with no $$ to operate it, the second highest unemployment in the US and a work force hungry for leadership. Skipper has everyone believing that leadership consists of providing the minimum managerial oversight any agency would be subject to. Comp time, sick leave, and it&#039;s impact on overtime. These are management problems. Solved by managing. CEO&#039;s use the human resources at their disposal to achieve predetermined goals and objectives...in any organization. What we need and Bob lacks is vision for the future. Where will the MCSO be in 5, 10, 15 years? What will it&#039;s core mission be? What legislative changes will he initiate to accomplish that mission? What linkages and partnerships with other allied agencies will he establish? These activities require he be engaged in current, state of the art managerial practices. This ain&#039;t a corn field in Nebraska. Multnomah County has been known until recently as a progressive place. Bob has taken us back 25 years and now holds us  hostage to his lack of skill and understanding no more revealed than failing the exam, after special treatment was extended because he argued his 34 prior years gave him special status. 

This is/was total crap. A function of his own hubris (Hubris is a term used in modern English to indicate overweening pride, superciliousness, or arrogance, often resulting in fatal retribution or nemesis. In ancient Greece, hubris referred to actions which, intentionally or not, shamed and humiliated the victim, and frequently the perpetrator as well. It was most evident in the public and private actions of the powerful and rich. The word was also used to describe actions of those who challenged the gods or their laws, especially in Greek tragedy, resulting in the protagonist&#039;s downfall) 

2nd acts are hard to do....unless you bring your best game. Bob didn&#039;t. Do you want Fred Pearce back? Dan Noelle was very very good but he wasn&#039;t interested. Times change, issues evolve, Bob hasn&#039;t. Nice guys obviously finish last. he did with 66%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack:</p>
<p>I usually agree with you but I have to take issue with the Joe Arapaio comment. He represents the mind set of the Arizona retirement community and as such isn&#8217;t all that relevant to Oregon and especially Multnomah County.He&#8217;s a good guy, doing a good job..but that whole deal down there is different. Their attitude is sort of Let Joe be Joe. Skipper is really an egotistical sob. He thinks or feels that his 34 years on the road in some way shape or form qualifies him to be the CEO, again. This is more like keystone cops every day. We have a Sheriff without a license, a new jail mothballed with no $$ to operate it, the second highest unemployment in the US and a work force hungry for leadership. Skipper has everyone believing that leadership consists of providing the minimum managerial oversight any agency would be subject to. Comp time, sick leave, and it&#8217;s impact on overtime. These are management problems. Solved by managing. CEO&#8217;s use the human resources at their disposal to achieve predetermined goals and objectives&#8230;in any organization. What we need and Bob lacks is vision for the future. Where will the MCSO be in 5, 10, 15 years? What will it&#8217;s core mission be? What legislative changes will he initiate to accomplish that mission? What linkages and partnerships with other allied agencies will he establish? These activities require he be engaged in current, state of the art managerial practices. This ain&#8217;t a corn field in Nebraska. Multnomah County has been known until recently as a progressive place. Bob has taken us back 25 years and now holds us  hostage to his lack of skill and understanding no more revealed than failing the exam, after special treatment was extended because he argued his 34 prior years gave him special status. </p>
<p>This is/was total crap. A function of his own hubris (Hubris is a term used in modern English to indicate overweening pride, superciliousness, or arrogance, often resulting in fatal retribution or nemesis. In ancient Greece, hubris referred to actions which, intentionally or not, shamed and humiliated the victim, and frequently the perpetrator as well. It was most evident in the public and private actions of the powerful and rich. The word was also used to describe actions of those who challenged the gods or their laws, especially in Greek tragedy, resulting in the protagonist&#8217;s downfall) </p>
<p>2nd acts are hard to do&#8230;.unless you bring your best game. Bob didn&#8217;t. Do you want Fred Pearce back? Dan Noelle was very very good but he wasn&#8217;t interested. Times change, issues evolve, Bob hasn&#8217;t. Nice guys obviously finish last. he did with 66%.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Peek</title>
		<link>http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2009/06/30/sheriff-bob-skipper-fails-certification-test/comment-page-1/#comment-94156</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Peek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MISSY: One more thing, if you want someone to do a better job..SHERIFF JOE,in Arizona comes to mind, but he would be to hard for a &quot;nice&quot; person like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MISSY: One more thing, if you want someone to do a better job..SHERIFF JOE,in Arizona comes to mind, but he would be to hard for a &#8220;nice&#8221; person like you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Peek</title>
		<link>http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2009/06/30/sheriff-bob-skipper-fails-certification-test/comment-page-1/#comment-94153</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Peek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Missy says: 
July 2, 2009 at 12:06 pm
And another thing: if all of you above think you can do the job better, then apply for it. Run for office and then make the choices that other are forced to make. It’s always easier to say you know better when it’s not your job to make the choices.

Reply  to MISSY

  Where the hell did at least I SAY,I didn&#039;t respect the man?

  What I HATE..really HATE, is the &quot;progressive&#039;s&quot; in charge here making excuses for anyone not performing on a job,any job.

  There are standards..there is a reason for them, I would like to think as a &quot;leader&quot; of people in dangerous work, If he could not do the same work....He would quit.

 YOU SAID: Run for office ...Well, Missy, the damn job entails more then the run for office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missy says:<br />
July 2, 2009 at 12:06 pm<br />
And another thing: if all of you above think you can do the job better, then apply for it. Run for office and then make the choices that other are forced to make. It’s always easier to say you know better when it’s not your job to make the choices.</p>
<p>Reply  to MISSY</p>
<p>  Where the hell did at least I SAY,I didn&#8217;t respect the man?</p>
<p>  What I HATE..really HATE, is the &#8220;progressive&#8217;s&#8221; in charge here making excuses for anyone not performing on a job,any job.</p>
<p>  There are standards..there is a reason for them, I would like to think as a &#8220;leader&#8221; of people in dangerous work, If he could not do the same work&#8230;.He would quit.</p>
<p> YOU SAID: Run for office &#8230;Well, Missy, the damn job entails more then the run for office.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Naptolong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2009/06/30/sheriff-bob-skipper-fails-certification-test/comment-page-1/#comment-94149</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Naptolong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>News Flash: Missy misses the point. 

It the oldest trick in the book for an elected official to tell a critic to run themselves if they don&#039;t like the outcome, policy or process. BS. Bob ius not qualified to run the Multnomah County Sheriff&#039;s Office if he cannot secure proper certification...him being a nice guy not withstanding. We have law and policies to insure minimum standards. Bob, so far, don&#039;t meet&#039;m. He can&#039;t even meet the watered down requirements that the legislature personally secured for him. This is ridiculous. No one is that &quot;good&quot; and that indispensable. The MCSO was screwed up in a couple highly fixable areas. Sick leave, Comp time, vacation time and the overall impact of all of these &quot;forms of leave&quot; on overtime. Time for Bob the Wonderboy to retire again. Mission accomplished. Back to the nursery. Professional corrections administration in this county is being held hostage by the perspectives of a dinosaur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News Flash: Missy misses the point. </p>
<p>It the oldest trick in the book for an elected official to tell a critic to run themselves if they don&#8217;t like the outcome, policy or process. BS. Bob ius not qualified to run the Multnomah County Sheriff&#8217;s Office if he cannot secure proper certification&#8230;him being a nice guy not withstanding. We have law and policies to insure minimum standards. Bob, so far, don&#8217;t meet&#8217;m. He can&#8217;t even meet the watered down requirements that the legislature personally secured for him. This is ridiculous. No one is that &#8220;good&#8221; and that indispensable. The MCSO was screwed up in a couple highly fixable areas. Sick leave, Comp time, vacation time and the overall impact of all of these &#8220;forms of leave&#8221; on overtime. Time for Bob the Wonderboy to retire again. Mission accomplished. Back to the nursery. Professional corrections administration in this county is being held hostage by the perspectives of a dinosaur.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another thing: if all of you above think you can do the job better, then apply for it.  Run for office and then make the choices that other are forced to make. It&#039;s always easier to say you know better when it&#039;s not your job to make the choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another thing: if all of you above think you can do the job better, then apply for it.  Run for office and then make the choices that other are forced to make. It&#8217;s always easier to say you know better when it&#8217;s not your job to make the choices.</p>
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